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C. T. R.
Mr. Phillips, in his edition, proposes as a translation of this passage, "Of dotards, not of the doting." Whatever may be its merits in other respects, it is at all events a more perfect alliteration than the other attempts which have been recorded in "N. & Q."
Erica.
Warwick.
When I was at school I used to translate the phrase "Amentium haud amantium" (Ter. Andr., i. 3. 13.) "Lunatics, not lovers." Perhaps that may satisfy Fidus Interpres.
Π. Β.
A friend of mine once rendered this "Lubbers, not lovers."
P. J. F. Gantillon, B.A.
Talleyrand's Maxim (Vol. vi., p. 575.; Vol. vii., p. 487.).—Young's lines, to which Z. E. R. refers, are:
"Where Nature's end of language is declined,
And men talk only to conceal their mind."
With less piquancy, but not without the germ of the same idea, Dean Moss (ob. 1729), in his sermon Of the Nature and Properties of Christian Humility, says:
"Gesture is an artificial thing: men may stoop and cringe, and bow popularly low, and yet have ambitious designs in their heads. And speech is not always the just interpreter of the mind: men may use a condescending style, and yet swell inwardly with big thoughts of themselves."—Sermons, &c., 1737, vol. vii. p. 402.
Cowgill.
English Bishops deprived by Queen Elizabeth (Vol. vii., pp. 260. 344. 509.).—The following particulars concerning one of the Marian Bishops are at A. S. A.'s service. Cuthbert Scot, D.D., sometime student, and, in 1553, Master of Christ's Church College, Cambridge, was made Vice-Chancellor of that University in 1554-5; and had the temporalities of the See of Chester handed to him by Queen Mary in 1556. He was one of Cardinal Pole's delegates to the University of Cambridge, and was concerned in most of the political movements of the day. He, and four other bishops, with as many divines, undertook to defend the principles and practices of the Romish Church against an equal number of Reformed divines. On the 4th of April he was confined, either in the Fleet Prison or the Tower, for abusive language towards Queen Elizabeth; but having by some means or other escaped from durance, he retired to Louvain, where he died, according to Rymer's Fœdera, about 1560.
T. Hughes.
Chester.
Gloves at Fairs (Vol. vii., passim.).—To the list of markets at which a glove was, or is, hung out, may be added Newport, in the Isle of Wight. But a Query naturally springs out of such a note, and I would ask, Why did a glove indicate that parties frequenting the market were exempt from arrest? What was the glove an emblem of?
W. D—n.
As the following extract from Gorr's Liverpool Directory appears to bear upon the point, and as it does not seem to have yet attracted the attention of any of your correspondents, I beg to forward it:—
"Its (i.e. Liverpool's) fair-days are 25th July and 11th Nov. Ten days before and ten days after each fair-day, a hand is exhibited in front of the Town-hall, which denotes protection; during which time no person coming to or going from the town on business connected with the fair can be arrested for debt within its liberty."
I have myself frequently observed the "hand," although I could not discover any appearance of a fair being held.
R.
St. Dominic (Vol. vii., p. 356.).—Your correspondent Bookworm will find in any chronology a very satisfactory reason why Machiavelli could not reply to the summons of Benedict XIV., unless, indeed, the Pope had made use of "the power of the keys," to call him up for a brief space to satisfy his curiosity.
J. S. Warden.
Names of Plants (Vol. viii., p. 37.).—Ale-hoof means useful in, or to, ale; Ground-ivy having been used in brewing before the introduction of hops. "The women of our northern parts" (says John Gerard), "especially about Wales or Cheshire, do tunne the herbe Ale-hoof into their ale … being tunned up in ale and drunke, it also purgeth the head from rhumaticke humours flowing from the brain." From the aforesaid tunning, it was also called Tun-hoof (World of Words); and in Gerard, Tune-hoof.
Considering what was meant by Lady in the names of plants, we should refrain from supposing that Neottia spiralis was called the Lady-traces "sensu obsc.," even if those who are more skilled in such matters than I am can detect such a sense. I cannot learn what a lady's traces are; but I suspect plaitings of her hair to be meant. "Upon the spiral sort," says Gerard, "are placed certaine small white flowers, trace fashion," while other sorts grow, he says, "spike fashion," or "not trace fashion." Whence I infer, that in his day trace conveyed the idea of spiral.
A. N.
Specimens of Foreign English (Vol. iii. passim.).—I have copied the following from the label on a bottle of liqueur, manufactured at Marseilles by "L. Noilly fils et Cie." The English will be best understood by being placed in juxtaposition with the original French:
"Le Vermouth
est un vin blanc légèrement amer, parfumé avec des plantes aromatiques bienfaisantes.
"Cette boisson est tonique, stimulante, fébrifuge et astringente: prise avec de l'eau elle est apéritive et raffraichissante: elle est aussi un puissant préservatif contre les fièvres et la dyssenterie, maladies si fréquentes dans les pays chauds, pour lesquels elle a été particulièrement composée."
"The Wermouth
is a brightly bitter and perfumed with aromatical and good vegetables white wine.
"This is tonic, stimulant, febrifuge and costive drinking; mixed with water it is aperitive, refreshing, and also a powerful preservative of fivers and bloody-flux; those latters are very usual in warmth countries, and of course that liquor has just been particularly made up for that occasion."
Henry H. Breen.
St. Lucia.
Blanco White (Vol. vii., pp. 404. 486.).—Your correspondent H. C. K. is right in his impression that the sonnet commencing
"Mysterious Night! when our first parents knew," &c.
was written by Blanco White. See his Life (3 vols., Chapman, 1845), vol. iii. p. 48.
J. K. R. W.
Pistols (Vol. viii., p. 7.).—In Strype's Life of Sir Thomas Smith, Works, Oxon. 1821, mention is made of a statute or proclamation by the Queen in the year 1575, which refers to that of 33 Hen. VIII. c. 6., alluded to by your correspondent J. F. M., and in which the words pistol and pistolet are introduced:
"The Queen calling to mind how unseemly a thing it was, in so quiet and peaceable a realm, to have men so armed; … did charge and command all her subjects, of what estate or degree soever they were, that in no wise, in their journeying, going, or riding, they carried about them privily or openly any dag, or pistol, or any other harquebuse, gun, or such weapon for fire, under the length expressed by the statute made by the Queen's most noble father.... [Excepting however] noblemen and such known gentlemen, which were without spot or doubt of evil behaviour, if they carried dags or pistolets about them in their journeys, openly, at their saddle bows," &c.
Here the dag or pistolet seems to answer to our "revolvers," and the pistol to our larger horse-pistol.
H. C. K.
—– Rectory, Hereford.
Passage of Thucydides on the Greek Factions (Vol. viii., p. 44.).—If L., or any of your readers, will take the trouble to compare the passage quoted, and the one referred to by him, in the following translation of Smith, with Sir A. Alison's supposititious quotation7 (Vol. vii., p. 594.), they will find that my inquiry is still unanswered. The passage quoted by L. in Greek is, according to Smith:
"Prudent consideration, to be specious cowardice; modesty, the disguise of effeminacy; and being wise in everything, to be good for nothing."
The passage not quoted, but referred to by L., is:
"He who succeeded in a roguish scheme was wise; and he who suspected such practices in others was still a more able genius."—Vol. i. book iii. p. 281. 4to.: London, 1753.
In this "counterfeit presentment of two brothers," L. may discern a family likeness; but my inquiry was for the identical passage, "sword and poniard" included.
If L. desires to find Greek authority for the general sentiment only, I would refer him to passages, equally to Sir A. Alison's purpose, in Thucydides, iii. 83., viii. 89.; Herodotus, iii. 81.; Plato's Republic, viii. 11., and Aristotle's Politics, v. 6. 9. I beg to thank L. for his attempt, although unsuccessful.
T. J. Buckton.
Birmingham.
The earliest Mention of the Word "Party" (Vol. vii., p. 247.).—In a choice volume, printed by "Ihon Day, dwelling over Aldersgate, beneath St. Martines," 1568, I find the word occurring thus:
"The party must in any place see to himselfe, and seeke to wipe theyr noses by a shorte aunswere."—A Discovery and playne Declaration of the Holy Inquisition of Spayne, fol. 10.
Permit me to attach a Query to this. Am I right in considering the above-mentioned book as rare? I do so on the assumption that "Ihon Day" is the Day of black-letter rarity.
R. C. Warde.
Kidderminster.
Creole (Vol. vii., p. 381.).—It is curious to observe how differently this word is applied by different nations. The English apply it to white children born in the West Indies; the French, I believe, exclusively to the mixed races; and the Spanish and Portuguese to the blacks born in their colonies, never to whites. The latter, I think, is the true and original meaning, as its primary signification is a home-bred slave (from "criar," to bring up, to nurse), as distinguished from an imported or purchased one.
J. S. Warden.
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